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Post by jackstark211 on Dec 10, 2020 22:45:07 GMT
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Wednesday
Dec 11, 2020 4:05:29 GMT
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Post by frosty on Dec 11, 2020 4:05:29 GMT
Any initial thoughts?
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Post by jackstark211 on Dec 11, 2020 15:41:25 GMT
I still need to listen to it.
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Post by Dan33185 on Dec 11, 2020 20:35:17 GMT
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Post by jackstark211 on Dec 11, 2020 20:40:57 GMT
Nice. I've listened to the first half and I like it.
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Post by Nah on Dec 11, 2020 21:21:55 GMT
He's just treading the same old tired ground. Carolina this, Carolina that, "I'm sad on a train, excuse me while I namecheck yet another American city tonight." Heartbreaker Pt 2 with better production and glimmers of Ashes & Fire. Regardless of any thoughts one might have regarding the shitstorm he's weathered since '17, it's still an altogether safe and uninspiring follow-up to Prisoner.
It's painfully obvious he's trying to squeak through a return to music while folks are distracted by other things, with the pandemic and its fallout chief among them. Funny how he caught his big break as a solo artist in the wake of a national tragedy. I suppose it's only fitting he'd try and benefit from another one.
With that in mind, he's picked a rather ho-hum way of doing it.
I was an RA fan for 15+ years, albeit one who always had issues with the guys character dating back to Whiskeytown. The 2017 accusations just cemented it for me, as it did for lots of other folks. It's only prototypical RA tastelessness to emerge from his foxhole and try to carve out a niche again. It hasn't even been three years since those accusations surfaced, some of which he's probably still under investigation for. In that time, he's apologized, spent very few months off social media, reappeared with a bunch of dumb cat tweets, relapsed, claimed he's cleaned up and learned the error of his ways... then re-apologized for the ORIGINAL apology but, trust him, this is the REAL apology this time.
It's no stretch to say this record should be met with lukewarm response from any media outlet bothering to review it, and only these small straggling pockets of RA fans could be troubled to argue otherwise. Rest assured, RA didn't learn a thing during the course of the past few years. It's still business as usual, save for maybe a few less impressionable female musicians in his orbit nowadays.
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Post by jackstark211 on Dec 11, 2020 21:57:58 GMT
Troll!! lol
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Post by walrus96 on Dec 12, 2020 15:49:53 GMT
Some songs strike me as RA color-by-numbers--"I'm Sorry, and I Love You," "Who's Gonna Love Me Now, If Not You," etc.--which ring a bit hollow to me in light of the NYT's piece from last year. On the one hand, breakups hurt, and RA has a knack for articulating those feelings. On the other hand, if you're known to be a perpetual asshole in romantic engagements, then "woe, I'm hurting from you leaving" songs don't have the same resonance with listeners--at least not for me as a listener.
That said, I think the two songs clearly inspired by his brother's death--"When You Pass Over" and "Mama"--are beautiful, poignant songs. And I find breakup ruminations like "Wednesdays" and "Poison and Pain" more convincing because while there's no shortage of wallowing, there's also an acknowledgement of his own failings and contributions to the dissolution of the relationship. The former has some of the most vivid imagery he's created in his lyrics.
Lastly, "Birmingham" offers a welcome lift of tempo and volume. It's catchy. Also, I think parts of it are clearly addressed to Isbell, maybe in part as a response to "Chaos and Clothes."
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Post by kalidasa on Dec 12, 2020 20:05:12 GMT
Euro version of lp + 7" have different bonus tracks t'han US Version. 😳
Enviado desde mi SM-N950F mediante Tapatalk
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Post by beourguest on Dec 14, 2020 3:37:29 GMT
Some songs strike me as RA color-by-numbers--"I'm Sorry, and I Love You," "Who's Gonna Love Me Now, If Not You," etc.--which ring a bit hollow to me in light of the NYT's piece from last year. On the one hand, breakups hurt, and RA has a knack for articulating those feelings. On the other hand, if you're known to be a perpetual asshole in romantic engagements, then "woe, I'm hurting from you leaving" songs don't have the same resonance with listeners--at least not for me as a listener. That said, I think the two songs clearly inspired by his brother's death--"When You Pass Over" and "Mama"--are beautiful, poignant songs. And I find breakup ruminations like "Wednesdays" and "Poison and Pain" more convincing because while there's no shortage of wallowing, there's also an acknowledgement of his own failings and contributions to the dissolution of the relationship. The former has some of the most vivid imagery he's created in his lyrics. Lastly, "Birmingham" offers a welcome lift of tempo and volume. It's catchy. Also, I think parts of it are clearly addressed to Isbell, maybe in part as a response to "Chaos and Clothes." What's the lyrics that people think alludes to Isbell?
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Post by Dan33185 on Dec 14, 2020 23:34:50 GMT
Some songs strike me as RA color-by-numbers--"I'm Sorry, and I Love You," "Who's Gonna Love Me Now, If Not You," etc.--which ring a bit hollow to me in light of the NYT's piece from last year. On the one hand, breakups hurt, and RA has a knack for articulating those feelings. On the other hand, if you're known to be a perpetual asshole in romantic engagements, then "woe, I'm hurting from you leaving" songs don't have the same resonance with listeners--at least not for me as a listener. That said, I think the two songs clearly inspired by his brother's death--"When You Pass Over" and "Mama"--are beautiful, poignant songs. And I find breakup ruminations like "Wednesdays" and "Poison and Pain" more convincing because while there's no shortage of wallowing, there's also an acknowledgement of his own failings and contributions to the dissolution of the relationship. The former has some of the most vivid imagery he's created in his lyrics. Lastly, "Birmingham" offers a welcome lift of tempo and volume. It's catchy. Also, I think parts of it are clearly addressed to Isbell, maybe in part as a response to "Chaos and Clothes." What's the lyrics that people think alludes to Isbell? Held her hand in Old Savannah Marigold print on her dress Her hair was combed and parted Like a beautiful princess I didn't see you at the altar Way back then you were so drunk You were washed up on some hooker's bed Behind a shitty restaurantBought her pretty clothes and diamonds The guy was born to be her man We were more than commentary For a cheap headline grab So when the wind blows in your window 'Cause the storm don't give a damn Pray the window don't break Across the wrist of your writing hand
On a stationary you wept with tears Of the people's backs you stab When you're hiding like a robber With no one's purse to grab
Remember me standing there holding out my hand In a broken down hotel in Birmingham
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Post by jackstark211 on Dec 15, 2020 14:42:56 GMT
Euro version of lp + 7" have different bonus tracks t'han US Version. 😳 Enviado desde mi SM-N950F mediante Tapatalk What are they?
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Post by kalidasa on Dec 15, 2020 15:36:16 GMT
Euro version: C1. It’s Not That Kind Of Night (vinyl-only bonus track) D1. Sunflowers (vinyl-only bonus track)
US version: Side A: Red And Orange Special
Side B: Somewhere It Is Spring
Enviado desde mi SM-N950F mediante Tapatalk
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Post by lukin on Dec 20, 2020 20:40:58 GMT
On the one hand, breakups hurt, and RA has a knack for articulating those feelings. On the other hand, if you're known to be a perpetual asshole in romantic engagements, then "woe, I'm hurting from you leaving" songs don't have the same resonance with listeners--at least not for me as a listener. I've only listened to the album once, and tried to listen with my opinions of RA himself (whom I hold in very low regard) set aside. My first impression was that it's a very pleasant listen, while holding exactly zero surprises. Although I'm not sure what surprises I'd expect or even want from RA at this point - maybe just pretty strong songs with nice production is enough. But this quote of yours definitely sums up a lot of what I felt when listening to it too - even whilst I tried to listen to the music on its on merits, I couldn't help thinking "oh, come the fuck on man!" with some lyrics.
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Post by cherryredvinyl on Jan 4, 2021 18:25:54 GMT
He's just treading the same old tired ground. Carolina this, Carolina that, "I'm sad on a train, excuse me while I namecheck yet another American city tonight." Heartbreaker Pt 2 with better production and glimmers of Ashes & Fire. Regardless of any thoughts one might have regarding the shitstorm he's weathered since '17, it's still an altogether safe and uninspiring follow-up to Prisoner. It's painfully obvious he's trying to squeak through a return to music while folks are distracted by other things, with the pandemic and its fallout chief among them. Funny how he caught his big break as a solo artist in the wake of a national tragedy. I suppose it's only fitting he'd try and benefit from another one. With that in mind, he's picked a rather ho-hum way of doing it. I was an RA fan for 15+ years, albeit one who always had issues with the guys character dating back to Whiskeytown. The 2017 accusations just cemented it for me, as it did for lots of other folks. It's only prototypical RA tastelessness to emerge from his foxhole and try to carve out a niche again. It hasn't even been three years since those accusations surfaced, some of which he's probably still under investigation for. In that time, he's apologized, spent very few months off social media, reappeared with a bunch of dumb cat tweets, relapsed, claimed he's cleaned up and learned the error of his ways... then re-apologized for the ORIGINAL apology but, trust him, this is the REAL apology this time. It's no stretch to say this record should be met with lukewarm response from any media outlet bothering to review it, and only these small straggling pockets of RA fans could be troubled to argue otherwise. Rest assured, RA didn't learn a thing during the course of the past few years. It's still business as usual, save for maybe a few less impressionable female musicians in his orbit nowadays. I've finally had a listen, and this pretty much sums up my own take in its entirety.
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